[anzac] WARNING to THE "APOSTLES" - Andrew Strom

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:38:46 -0800
-Andrew Strom.

An Open Letter to Peter Wagner, Dutch Sheets & Other "Apostles".

I recently received a report of a new "Apostolic Network" headed
up by Dutch Sheets which held a gathering in Florida last week to
"carve up" territories for it's 'apostles', etc. I need to put in writing 
what I believe the Lord would say to these men. 

But first I need to remind us all of something. On June 23rd, 2008,
a group of "apostles and prophets" under Peter Wagner's headship
stood on a stage in Lakeland at the Todd Bentley revival - to lay
on hands and commission him, etc. But it was far more than that.
Peter Wagner called it an "apostolic alignment." He made the 
following statement before all the TV cameras and all the people:

"I take the apostolic authority that God has given me and I decree
to Todd Bentley:
-Your power will increase.
-Your authority will increase.
-Your favor will increase.
-Your influence will increase.
-Your revelation will increase.
I also decree that:
-A new supernatural strength will flow through this ministry.
-A new life force will penetrate this move of God..."

Onlookers might have thought that Wagner was 'prophesying' the
above statements. But actually what he felt he was doing was
"decreeing" these things over Todd - since he was the 'head 
apostle'.  In a letter the following day, Wagner called this a 
"groundbreaking event" and stated that, "We are now in a place
in what I see as the Second Apostolic Age..." (In other words,
a "new era" of real apostles).

So how did that work out for you, Peter? Well, literally within 
weeks we found out that many of the "miracles" at Lakeland had 
no foundation, and then Todd Bentley's wife separated from him 
apparently over an affair he was having - and the entire 'revival' fell 
to pieces in the worst way possible. That's how it worked out.

All the big Charismatic leaders that had stood on that stage hardly
knew what to do with themselves - they were so embarrassed.
And none more so than Peter Wagner - after making an "Apostolic 
decree" like that. -Probably the most colossal disaster of his life.

So who pulled the rug out from under your "apostolic alignment", 
Peter? I need to tell you that there are two responsible parties. 
One is 'yourself' - clearly. And the second is GOD - because He 
is now pitted against you and your so-called "apostles". He is the 
one who did this to you.

You and your friends have presumed to an office and a place over
the Body that is simply not yours, and God is in the process of 
taking you 'apostles' down - and all your "networks" with you.

Dutch Sheets - can I ask you please, what gives you the right to
carve up the Body of Christ in North America and parcel it out like 
McDonalds franchises to all your buddies so they can be 'apostles' 
over their own "territory"? Do you have any idea what you are 
playing with? Don't you know that if your buddies are not real New
Testament Apostles then all they are doing is painting huge 
targets on themselves and begging for the judgment of God?
How dare you treat the Body of Christ like a piece of Real Estate
that you can carve up for your own aggrandizement?

Because of men like you, God is about to judge the leadership 
of the church. Do they call themselves an "apostle"? Well, God 
is going to put them to the test. If they are not the real thing, they 
make themselves His 'enemy' because they are blocking His 
real Reformation. Every self-proclaimed "apostle and prophet" is 
about to be put to the test. Oh, you call your group an "Apostolic 
Council of Elders" or something similar? Expect God to come 
calling, and if you are not the real thing, expect Him to take you 
down. The Lord God is coming to take back His church with great 
violence. And you guys are standing directly in His way.

I've heard that one of these big "apostles" in Canada once told his 
network that their "apostle-ness" would be judged by the 'noses
and nickels' that they represented. (In other words, their "numbers" 
and their reaping of money). Hmmmm. If I didn't know better, I 
would call those the words of a hireling and a wolf.

As Lee Grady wrote about this 'Apostle-Mania':
"In some circles apostles demanded total allegiance from the 
leaders who were "under" them. Some required a policy of "tithing 
up," creating a monstrous organizational structure similar to a 
spiritual Amway. So-called apostles with huge "downlines" made 
exorbitant amounts of money. One leader even offered pastors the 
opportunity to become "spiritual sons" by contributing $1,000 a 
month to his ministry."

And yet here is what the TRUE apostle Paul wrote: "I think that 
God has set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to 
death... we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are 
buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace... we are made as the 
filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things..." (1 Cor 4:9-13).

Now THAT is true apostleship. Tell me, Mr. Modern Apostle, do 
you match up to the New Testament apostles? If not, what on 
earth do you think God is going to do to you if you claim that title falsely?

I believe that many true Apostles, when they do arise, will simply 
REFUSE to carry such titles in any way. They will "minimize" 
themselves, not exalt themselves. That is the heart of a true leader of God.

In closing, let me again warn those who have titled themselves
"apostle" or 'prophet' in the modern church. God is coming to
"clean house" and if you are not the real deal, expect Him to start 
with you. It is as simple as that. You need to repent urgently of 
your utter presumption. You have been warned.

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God bless you all.

Andrew Strom.