The TORBEN CONTROVERSY - COMMENTS? by Andrew Strom I hope by now you have seen the movie "The Last Reformation" by my old friend Torben Sondergaard. (If not, there is a link at the end of this article). Of course, the movie is very powerful and inspiring - which is why we have promoted it. It literally changes people's lives. But there are always those who have concerns - and it is often the same things that come up over and over. So I am writing this article to address some of these things. Firstly, I am not a member of 'The Last Reformation' movement. To me, this is not about a man or a movement. It is all about JESUS and what He wants to do in the earth. We can take the very best stuff that Torben puts out and combine it with the things God has shown us - and see tremendous powerful things happen in people's lives. That is because it is not about us and it is not about Torben. It is all about JESUS and what He wants to do. EXPERIENCED a DAY OF MIRACLES If you have been on this email list for awhile, you will know that we have been doing similar things to the movie for years. Praying and baptizing people on the streets, etc. But I have to admit, when I got back from the recent "Kickstart" with Torben in Australia, something in me felt new and different. It was like a 'jump' had taken place so that healings and other powerful things suddenly felt more 'normal' and more attainable. And now we are teaching others and they are seeing this "jump" take place in their own lives. A jump into Book-of-Acts Christianity. We just returned from a little town in Northland where some brothers and I held a Training Weekend not too different from the ones Torben holds. On Saturday we literally had an entire day of healings, people getting filled with the Spirit and speaking in 'tongues', baptisms in the ocean - all interspersed with teaching on the "Foundations" (Hebrews 6) - and so-on. At one point we got all the "well" people to pray for all those with injuries and sickness. Many were instantly healed. While this was going on, I started praying for a woman who had had two operations on her hips and walked in constant pain. As I commanded healing in the name of JESUS she was instantly healed and took off walking up and down the aisle to check that the pain was gone. Totally healed in Jesus' name! I then asked her if she had ever been filled with the Holy Spirit and spoken in 'tongues'. She never had. I laid on hands and prayed for her. She was instantly filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in a beautiful prayer-language. Honestly, I have never seen a person look more radiant or filled-with-joy than this lady. And two hours later she was helping to baptize a friend in the ocean. Real New Testament stuff happening right before our eyes. Did it used to be common for me to see powerful things happen instantaneously like that? Nope. But now it is starting to become truly "normal". And we also find that we are able to pass this on to others. The gospel is being followed by healings and miracles, just like it was in the Bible. BAPTISM is AN ISSUE Personally I have always been strong on baptism - both in water and in the Spirit. The thing that I am strongest on is that baptism should be done in FAITH. You need to BELIEVE that in baptism God will do all the things He says He will do. Of course we insist that people must repent first before they are baptized. So when the Bible speaks of baptism as a "death and burial" of the old life (Rom 6:3-4) we tell people to believe God for that. And when it says that baptism is a "cutting off" (Col 2:11-12) and a "washing away" (Acts 22:16) we tell people to believe God for that. This makes baptism very powerful - just as it should be. Why do we treat baptism as a mere "symbol" when if we do it in FAITH it can be one of the most powerful spiritual experiences of a person's entire life? A lot of people ask questions about the way Torben baptizes. You will notice in the movie that he says to the person, "I baptize you into Jesus Christ" (or in the "name of Jesus Christ") but then he does something additional while he is putting them under the water. He says, "Die with Christ, rise with Christ." And he does it every time. In fact, a lot of people get the impression that this is Torben's baptismal formula. "Die with Christ, rise with Christ." If you ask him, I'm sure Torben will say that this is just something he adds to emphasize what baptism is all about. (Rom 6:3-4). But the problem is that Torben's followers around the world are copying him in a way that makes it seem like this is now the proper "formula" for baptism. This could really cause problems. In fact, it already is. For many years I have personally baptized people "in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit - in the name of Jesus Christ." Why do I do it this way? Because in Matt 28:19 it tells us to baptize in the name of the "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" but in the Book of Acts it tells us they baptized people in the "name of Jesus Christ". So to fulfill all these Scriptures and also to save confusion, I make sure that all of this is covered. To speak the name of Jesus over someone being baptized is a very wonderful thing. So I have no problem with Torben baptizing people simply "into the name of Jesus Christ." Personally I prefer to do it a bit differently, but I have no problem with that at all. And neither do I have a problem with people joining the 'Last Reformation' movement. If they want to do that it is entirely up to them. As for me and others, however, we consider that we are already part of the "Jesus" movement. We love to take great material like the 'Last Reformation' movie and show it to people to make them inspired about doing the works of Jesus in the earth. It is one of the best tools I know of to show that a "Book of Acts" lifestyle truly is possible today. A very powerful film. But we do not have to be part of a "movement" to do that. I strongly encourage you to gather your friends and relations to watch this movie. There is really nothing else like it. Maybe you can even have a prayer and healing session afterward! Or a baptism session! I'm sure it will inspire your friends just as it has inspired many others. TO COMMENT click here - http://www.revivalschool.com/ TO WATCH the MOVIE - https://thelastreformationmovie.com/ God bless you all. Andrew Strom.