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From: "REVIVAL List" <prophetic@...>
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:00:21 -0500
MODERATOR:  A few people have been questioning why I chose
to bring up 'Toronto' at this time. "Surely it is old news?" they say.
Sadly, that is not the case. Everywhere I look throughout the
Charismatic movement today I see evidence of Toronto-type
excesses and manifestations. They come in slightly different forms 
(-new fads blow through every year). But I tell you, the "children of 
Toronto" are everywhere. Sometimes it is plain 'silliness' going on - 
but other times there is real power behind it.

However, the other thing that comes into this is the "Youth Revival"
scenario. Personally, we are in the midst of adapting our entire
ministry to the coming 'Street-Revival' right now. Others are hearing 
this from God also. And so the basis of our entire ministry is 
changing. We are being forced onto a kind-of 'War' footing.

I want to tell you, there is no worse nightmare I can imagine than 
'Toronto' getting a foot-hold in the new move of God. All those
young converts - hungry and susceptible. If they get fed 'Toronto'
they will believe it. I have studied Revival history now for over 20 
years - and I tell you, Toronto is a "Revival-killer". It has a proven
track-record going back centuries. And I cannot imagine a worse
fate for the coming Revival, can you? Why do you think the first 
Great Awakening lasted only three years? (Research the name
'James Davenport', the "old lights" and the "new lights" - and you
will find out). Why do you think the 1904 Welsh Revival became 
a by-word in that nation within just a few years? Read history and 
there you will see 'Toronto'-type phenomena wrecking Revivals 
time and time again. Is that what we want for the coming move of 
God, my friends?

From my point of view, if there are leaders who carry that 
"anointing", they are absolutely UNWELCOME to minister in any
way to the young converts that are coming in. -Which is another 
reason why this issue is so important to discuss at this moment. 
I believe we are about to enter 'harvest-time' in the West and we 
simply cannot afford to see it so easily ruined. We need to keep
this thing OUT. 

(Mind you, we cannot afford to be too heavy on 'minor' excesses
either. The Holy Spirit has to be given room to move and there will
always be some 'messiness' involved. It is a question of BALANCE).

By the way, you may be interested in the following brief account
that a lady named Patti sent me today:  "I inadvertently got prayed 
over by some people who had received "The Toronto Blessing". I 
ended up that night with uncontrollable flopping and shaking of my 
limbs, being drunk in spirit and uncontrollable laughter. At the time 
it felt right. But later as time went on, these manifestations came 
at inopportune times and were uncontrollable. My arms and legs 
would shake when trying to pray for people or when just sitting in 
church. My legs would give out and I would have to catch my 
balance just to stand upright while worshipping. It soon became 
clear to me that this was not the Holy Spirit and so I repented of 
allowing myself to receive this spirit and asked God to take it away 
from me. Praise Him, He did!"

You might be interested in the lively discussion that has been
occurring on our 'REVIVALSCHOOL' Forum about this topic.
(Please see-  http://www.revivalschool.com ).  Below is an 
interesting vision from 1974 which may also relate to this whole thing.

God bless you all.  -Andrew Strom.

NOTE from AUTHOR:  Thank you for your article on Toronto. In the 
mid 90s I sent out similar warnings, and received some flak as a 
result, although here in England, the influence of Toronto has never 
been as great as in the USA.

I am attaching a vision [below] I received in 1974, which speaks for 
itself. You may find it useful, especially as it was given to me long 
before the "crazy manifestations"...... 

-extracts by Arthur Eedle. (-Sept 1994).

Twenty years ago this month the Lord gave me one of the strangest 
visions I have ever received, and on reflection I still believe it to be 
one of the most important, revealing the subtlety of the enemy's 
intrusion into the end-time works of God. The vision became the 
subject of our very first edition of The Prophetic Telegraph, which 
we published on 27th June 1986. In view of the way things have 
gone in the western world in the last twenty years, we now believe
that it is timely to review this vision in the light of developments. The 
Lord said that in the last days He would send "strong delusion" to 
those "who received not the love of the truth." This was the basis of 
the vision, which may now be set down once again for analysis. 

The Crown Agents in London had appointed me to teach in the King 
George V School, Hong Kong.... I was told there were more 
millionaires per square mile in Hong Kong than anywhere else in 
the world, and after being there for some time, I could well believe 
it. Looking back I now believe that what happened next was related 
to the Hong Kong way of life, as it was going to influence the newly 
forming charismatic churches in the west. Except that the luxury 
relates mainly to the spiritual realm rather than the material realm. 

As I sat looking at this amazing scene I began to see something 
else, and because of its strangeness my mind was alerted 
immediately to the fact that God was conveying truth in visionary 
form. I saw a duck, and I knew that it had been made of icing sugar 
because a hand was smoothing down the surface with a knife. When 
all was complete, the strange thing padded along on its webbed feet 
as though alive, and settled down on a flat surface somewhere. But 
if this was strange, the next part of the vision took me even more by 
surprise, because I saw dozens of people arriving at the duck, and it 
was only then that I realised how large it was. It must have been all 
of forty feet tall! The people were excited about the coming of the 
duck, and some of those who were braver than the rest even went up 
to it and touched it. One of them licked his fingers and the taste was 
sweet. Breaking a fragment from the surface he ate it, and jumped for
joy. Others gained confidence and followed his example until they 
were all delerious with excitement. I saw them singing, dancing, 
throwing up their hands in the air, and embracing each other. The 
festive atmosphere was its own advertisement. People arrived in 
droves, pushing and shoving, and climbing over the duck with the aid 
of ladders in an effort to obtain a handful of icing sugar and join in the fun.

This continued for some time until one man gave a very loud shout, 
which brought everything to a halt. They saw him pointing to a hole 
that had appeared in the icing sugar. It was therefore not solid as 
they had originally thought. No one had imagined the sugar icing 
might give out sooner or later. After this, caution was exercised in 
the eating. Everyone agreed to ration what was left. But they found 
to their joy that even the smallest taste produced the same effects 
as a handful, and they wished they had learned this lesson earlier. 
In the process of time many more holes appeared. Some tried 
looking inside the duck, but all was pitch dark. Nothing could be 
seen. Gradually the duck became wafer thin. All of a sudden the 
crash came as the remainder of the duck disintegrated in a cloud of
very fine dust. The crowd became silent, waiting and watching. 

It took a while for the dust to settle, and then I had a shock. Inside 
the duck there was a terrible black beast about forty feet long, in 
shape like a scorpion with bulbous green eyes. It also had wings 
similar to those of a dragonfly. I fully expected the crowd to disperse 
at great speed, but instead they became delirious with excitement 
once again, and accepted the beast as their accredited leader. If 
anything, the excitement became greater than before. At this point
the vision changed, and I saw the hand once again. It was 
outstretched with some white pills on the palm. A small number of 
people were arriving to receive one, which they ate. The result showed 
on their faces as an inner sense of peace and tranquillity. And then 
the two visions merged. Once again I saw people taking the icing 
sugar from the duck and jumping about in excitement. The group from
the second vision were approaching, and mingling with the crowd, 
warning them, "Don't eat it! It's dangerous!" But there was very little 
response. Some shouted at them, "Go away, you prophets of doom! 
Don't tell us that YOU have the Spirit of the Lord. Where is your joy?" 
Disheartened they eventually wandered away, feeling a dull ache in 
the pits of their stomachs. 

Later on, when I had made a record of the vision, the Lord spoke to 
me, and I wrote down the message, as follows:- 

"The hand that formed the bitter pill fashioned also the duck. This 
is my work, and by it my name will be magnified. Twenty centuries 
of progress has not changed the nature of man, and neither has it 
changed mine, says the Lord. My Son is the Way, the Truth and 
the Life. All those who reject the bitter pill of the cross will find 
themselves prey to the lie. I will send them strong delusion, and 
they will believe it and rejoice in it because their hearts are not set 
upon the Way. They will accept falsehood in a season of careless
security, indulging in spiritual flirtation with powers of darkness 
dressed up in acceptable guise. They longed for sweet things and 
I gave them sugar, but it was not in tune with my heart, says the 
Lord. And each bite of the duck they take, so grows the beast within. 
And each bite of the duck they take, so blind they become to the 
truth. And then, when antifaith has done its final work the
beast is revealed to the world, enthroned within the temple of God,
blasphemously parading divine nature. Mark well my words, says 
the Lord, there is but one great sign for this world, one marvel, one 
miracle of challenge that I will accept, and it is the sign of the 
prophet Jonah. And those who take the bitter pill shall find 
loneliness, derision and sorrow. And they shall walk the way of their 
Master, learning of His sorrows, sharing His suffering, conforming
to His death. But I shall raise them to life, life on a higher plane, 
and they shall take my message to the nations. This is my sign, 
and this shall be their reward. All other ways, however right they 
may appear to man, shall be disallowed in my sight, says the Lord. 
And those who eat the duck shall refuse this glory when it is 
revealed for it shall be folly to them. Choose therefore whilst it is 
still possible, choose the salt and reject the sugar, says the Lord, 
for the time is now short." 

I should like to display a brief snatch from another vision, one 
which my wife received in June 1969. She saw a dam across a 
narrow ravine, and behind the dam there was to start with just a 
small trickle of water, but over a lengthy period of time the water 
rose to produce a large lake, and eventually filled the ravine to the 
top of the dam. At this stage, the dam burst, and the waters flowed 
out, bright and iridescent, into the valley beyond. The Lord gave 
the interpretation. The water represented the faith of His people. 
And the effect of faith was twofold. Firstly, the faith had an effect 
in the believer's life and his walk. But secondly, the faith had 
another effect, which was not appreciated by the believer at all. 
In heavenly places, each act of faith was like the water behind the 
dam. God was preparing for a yet future day when, in His Kingdom, 
He could liberate the combined effect of all the faith of His elect, 
and it would flow out to a needy world. I believe the two visions 
are essentially the same in their interpretation. But the dam refers 
to God's work, whereas the duck refers to the counterfeit work. 

The people who ate the pills - These have fed on the true word, and 
have seen the nature of the evil. They pray for the others, and 
whenever occasion arises, they approach them and warn them, but 
usually to no avail. Hence the sweetness in the mouth gave way to 
bitterness of soul at the outcome of their endeavours. 

The Lord's hand - Some might be upset when they realise the Lord 
was the One who designed the duck. But it must be remembered 
that in olden days, after King Saul's disobedience, the Lord withdrew 
His Spirit from him, and gave him an evil spirit instead. In each of 
these cases, the Lord takes full responsibility for what happens, 
even though Satan was the donor of Saul's evil spirit, as he is also 
the architect of the duck. 

Those who tried to warn the people of the dangers they were facing, 
only received reviling comments. "Where is your joy?" they asked. 
But how can you approach such people with a smile, when your 
task is to warn them of danger? They were drunk with the wine of 
intoxication, produced by the effects of eating the sugary sweet 
words of the false prophet, and enjoying the effects. 

The Holy Spirit's ministry to believers is essentially towards their 
re-creation in the Lord's own image. But in these days, at the latter 
end of the twentieth century, vast numbers of believers look to the 
Holy Spirit for power, signs and wonders, which instead of crucifying 
the flesh, tend to feed it. Oh how easy it is to be captivated by all 
the manifestations of supernatural power today. Many Christians go 
"conference hopping" in the hope of being present at yet another
occasion of "blessing", where they can witness all manner of effects, 
not just by the preacher and those called to the front, but throughout 
the auditorium. Ifbelievers persist in praying to the Holy Spirit for 
signs and manifestations, the Holy Spirit cannot answer. It is 
contrary to the purpose for which the Spirit has come. But there is 
always "another" who "comes in his own name", and "him you will 
hear." The crucial decision must be made. Is the flesh being fed, or crucified? 

The Lord spoke to my wife some years ago saying, "In these days 
treat the miraculous very lightly. Look rather to the LIVES of those 
who profess to have spiritual powers." We have found it a most valuable word. 

It is amazing how hard one may become when striving constantly 
for "power". But those who are striving for mastery (lawfully), "walk 
in the Spirit and have no confidence in the flesh." All such are 
progressively broken on the Rock which is Christ, and in brokenness 
they learn to be gentle, even when acting as salt. 

Two final words. First of all, over the years since 1986, when we first 
started publishing The Prophetic Telegraph, we have frequently 
warned our readers about these growing tendencies within the 
charismatic movement. But lest any should think that we doctrinally 
reject manifestations of God's Holy Spirit in these end days, our 
testimony is that my wife and I received the baptism of the Spirit in 
1967, and have used the gift of speaking in tongues in our private 
prayer lives ever since. We have also been God's instruments in 
areas of deliverance ministry, healing, and in receiving visions and
revelations from the Lord.

Normally we should not wish to advertise this fact, but it seems 
necessary to say so at this juncture to avoid being misunderstood. 

And secondly, over this period of time we have certainly been too 
strident and even harsh in our advertisement of the words of warning 
given to us. The Lord has graciously revealed these areas to us, 
(mainly myself), and where necessary letters of apology have been 
dispatched. It is good therefore to reveal this publicly now. My 
sincere prayer and desire for all those who are being sucked in to 
this present hyped up atmosphere of spiritual worship, is that the 
Holy Spirit will bring them through to a stable ground where they 
can appreciate the "way of the cross" that Jesus taught. I have no 
antagonism towards any of God's people, no matter what their 
persuasion is. If God has saved them through the precious blood of 
His own beloved Son, then they are my brothers and sisters in
Christ. May God teach me how to love, and yet retain integrity 
based upon the revelation granted, until the end come. Even so 
come, Lord Jesus.