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From: "REVIVAL List" <prophetic@...>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:52:46 +1300

Below is a very interesting testimony from a lady who was deeply
involved in these movements.

Like me, you have probably come across Christian groups telling 
us Gentile Christians that we need to get back to the Torah and
observe the Jewish Sabbath and Feast Days, etc. This is often
called the "Hebrew Roots" movement - and some of it is fine -
simply learning more about Jewish culture and traditions, etc. 
But then there is the very real danger of LEGALISM. To me, the
entire thrust of the movement ends up going right against the
New Testament - in fact, right against true Christianity. I think it
can become very dangerous. -The bondage of the Law again.

And then there are the people who claim that we MUST call
Jesus by the name "Yeshua" - even though the apostle Paul
simply called Him by the Greek word 'Iesous'. They say that
unless we use "Yeshua" we are totally "off". Well - I believe
the facts completely overturn this theory. I don't mind people
calling Jesus 'Yeshua' if they wish - but to make a "doctrine"
out of it is extreme error in my view. However, it is amazing the 
number of people who are being caught up in all this - as though
it were the "great answer" to all our problems! (It's not).

Below is the testimony of a woman who was deeply involved:

  "I wanted to share with you why I feel that the Hebrew Roots 
Movement & Sacred Name Movement is just as dangerous as the 
The Latter Rain Doctrine. Coming out of both I feel confident in 
saying so. I grew up in the Assembly of God church, one that did 
not teach Latter Rain/Dominion poison. After my husband and I 
were married (he grew up Baptist) we began searching for something 
deeper ( I think that is how you get sucked into Latter Rain etc., 
you feel like there just has to be something more, sadly the Word 
of God is not enough). We began attending a non-denominational
church which would turn out to be one of many disastrous church

  This church was heavy Dominionist and were really into the 
"shepherding" thing so that they knew everything about everyone 
and would use it as a form of control. This was our first experience 
with the prophetic movement and we were drawn in by it. After 
leaving there because of the control issues (we did not notice the 
theology was twisted because we were deceived) we continued 
on in the prophetic circles including attending Bill Hamon's church 
when we were able to travel there and reading everything we could 
from all the big NAR's. Well after about 10 years of this running 
after new revelation (we had a huge box of tapes with personal 
prophecies!) we became really disallusioned with the hypocrisy,
lawlessness and cheap grace attitudes. We decided to leave the
Apostolic/Prophetic church that we were attending. This did not 
sit well with the "Apostle". In these types of churches you do not 
leave unless you are "sent out" by the Apostle, which never 
happens by the way.

  After leaving we were contacted by a couple that had left a few 
months before we had. Before visiting with them, I remember really 
clearing going to my bookshelf and taking a book off the shelf that 
was a study on Galatians, I know now the Lord was trying to warn 
me but sadly I put the book back without taking a look at it. Well 
we began to meet with this couple and we shared our frustrations 
about the lawlessness, etc. that we had left (at the time I did not 
know anything about Latter Rain and how it was connected to the
Prophetic/Apostolic movement, it would have explained so much).

  They gave us a book by Lew White called Fossilized Customs.  
The book has some facts but much twisted truth. We took the bait 
though. The whole book is about how the name Jesus is supposedly 
pagan along with a lot of other extreme ideas! Thus Sacred Name. 
These people believe that you can only use the name Yahweh 
when referring to God, the Father and Yeshua (some use Yahushua) 
all else is pagan and Satan has deceived all Christians into using 
the name Jesus and that Jesus really means Zeus! And this has 
been revealed to only the remnant (notice the Gnostic elitism)
which is funny because they pride themselves on staying away 
from anything remotely Greek!

Well this began a four year journey with these people. We backed 
off a bit of the Sacred name only but began studying many Jewish 
writings. You must understand that this was all very gradual and 
the leader of this group was very skilled at studying things and 
presenting it to us.

  Sadly to say we drifted more and more from the New Testament, 
the new covenant and the cross of Christ. That is the danger of the 
Hebrew Roots movement. You want so desperately to return to the 
Word of God but in the end it takes you away from it in it's entirety. 
The leader began planting seeds such as" the New Testament was 
not totally flawless since it had been written in Greek there were 
many different texts and some may not be accurate". He began to 
pick and choose and before we ended up leaving he had pretty 
much thrown out Galatians and John because it did not reconcile
to his theology! He taught that the Virgin birth was just a doctored 
up Catholic version of the Word. He taught that Jesus was Joseph 
and Mary's natural born son even though he could not prove this 
scripturely. That is why he brought into question the accuracy of 
the translations.

  You are probably saying "how could you stay?" All I can say is 
that deception does not happen over night it is gradual, we became 
emotionally tied to these people and looked to them as a mother 
and father (I think that is why many stay in abusive churches).

We participated in the feasts of the Bible and of course we observed
Sabbath religiously every Saturday (what got me is that instead of 
us resting we had to go to the leader's home early that morning to 
hear hours of his twisted teaching!). He began to teach that we 
became righteous through the law and that was why Yeshua came 
to show us how to keep the law. He actually began to teach that 
we needed to keep as much of the Law of Moses that we could 
and it was lawlessness not to do so. In essence you basically had 
to convert to Judaism even though we literally did not.

  We started to get a clue about a year before we actually cut all 
ties and we started to question him about some of the laws in the 
Old Covenant and how we were uncomfortable with some about 
slavery for instance, of course he came up with some justification 
about it. Around this time he began making references to having 
more than one wife. My husband and I were really uncomfortable 
with these continuous comments and so one day we confronted 
him (his wife was not present and by the way it was obvious this 
journey was taking it's toll on her as well by this time.) He told us
he was one of those that could love more than one woman! (There 
is double standard because it is unthinkable for a woman to have 
more than one husband in their eyes!). We told him "what about 
the words of Jesus (in the beginning God made male and female, 
etc.) but what was obvious to us was not to him. If it wasn't in 
"Torah" then it didn't count!

  Well that was it, I cried all weekend and we just began to think 
about everything and the path that we had been on and how far we 
had strayed from the gospel and it was heartbreaking! I take full
responsibility for allowing myself to be deceived but I must say 
that man really messed with my mind! He was skilled in twisting 
scripture and to this day I still struggle with some things. I almost 
lost my faith in God because of my involvement with these people. 
My husband came through a little easier than myself.

  I have to say there are many sects within the Hebrew Roots 
movement and not all believe what I have shared. But the core 
belief is that the church has strayed from it's Hebrew roots and 
that God is restoring this revelation (the same theme of the Latter 
Rain) but only to a select few and the rest of the church is pagan. 
Because of this belief you begin to cut yourself off from the Body 
of Christ and before you know it you are isolated. You are no longer 
the salt of the world. You do not witness or share the gospel 
anymore because you don't believe the gospel anymore!

The very thing that you think is bringing you closer to God (returning
to His word) takes you further away because it is a twisted 
perception of the Word of God. My heart goes out to anyone caught 
up in this deception because it leaves you so confused. I praise 
God that he opened our eyes to this and for His grace and mercy 
and for the blood of Jesus which is our true Redeemer!"