[c_lug] Re: [C_LUG] Gentoo Experiences

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From: "John Clement" <john@...>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:50:50 -0500
You hit the nail on the head when you said that you were building the Gentoo system.  That is the toughest part and one that requires a fair amount of patience.  Hopefully you will have a good first build and not get hosed somehow.  That did not happen to me, but I've heard stories of people giving up in disgust after problems with the first build.  The nice thing is once its done, theoretically, you should never have to reinstall again.

Yes, it would make things easier if there were tools for setting up the configuration files. On the plus side, however, it is a good way to increase one's knowledge of the Linux system.  For those like you who already understand these things and just want a nice shortcut, it can be frustrating.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Glen Stewart <root@...>
Reply-To: c_lug@...
Date:  Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:32:12 -0500

>On Tuesday 27 January 2004 10:36 am, Ed Hurst wrote:
>> I'm not interested in updating every package, much like your printing
>> system comments.
>
>I tried installing Mandrake 10.0b1 on my daughter's laptop, and the 2.6 kernel 
>refused to get past freeing memory at one point in the boot process.  Since 
>the 10.0 software had completely eradicated the 9.2 packages, and the library 
>foundations were all updated, the resulting system was unusable.  Choice: 
>languish in broken Mandrake 10 until the next beta, or move backward to 9.2.
>
>At the recommendation of some here, I dumped Mandrake and am building Gentoo 
>on it.  Notice I say "building".  The web manual is quite thorough.  
>
>But after 3 nights of work on this thing, I really don't understand the 
>attraction of typing all the setup and installation commands.  It's one of 
>those "Been there, done that" feelings.  I've done RedHat 5, and this reminds 
>me of it.  But it's slower - all the packages are bzip2'd.
>
>Tons of packages on Gentoo.  Once the system is built up, I can see how 
>updating it will be very simple.
>
>The suggested text editor is nano - maybe capable, but I know vim better.  
>Been building vim for about an hour, since no precompiled package was 
>available.  Since KDE won't boot up yet (dependancy on libfam that I can't 
>seem to resolve), those are my apparent choices.
>
>Anybody else doing such a change - I highly suggest keeping your /etc around 
>as /etc.old.  It's been a nice jumpstart.
>
>So I guess I would suggest automating the Stage3 setup process for lazy folks 
>like me.  Once past that, a GUI to quickly pick package categories to 
>install.  Stop this typing nonsense.  Perhaps this is done, but not 
>documented.
>
>More later when more works.
>
>Glen
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