Greetings in the Name of the OverLord: I am concerned that the issue of physical vs. spiritual death seems to be rearing its head. While it is possible to interpret Paul (In Adam all died...) to indicate spiritual death only, it is obvious to me that this is not entirely supported by the text. To my mind, Adam's sin brought death into the world, both physical and spiritual (The wages of sin is death...). I believe we make a false dichotomy in so separating them. Paul seems to have gone to great pains to indicate that man is a unit, and without spirit or body he is not Man. This is one reason for his insistance on a "spiritual body" in the Resurrection. However, when Christ rose from the dead, He had a physical form that could eat and be touched, not just a disembodied form, or separate spirit as the Docetists claimed. He left footprints on the sand. These and other reasons lead me to believe that physical as well as spiritual death came as a result of the Edenic fall. While I would not dispute my brother's contention that spiritual death was the result of Adam's sin, I would also contend that physical death entered the world at the same time. Else, it seems to this old gray head that putting the Tree of Life in Eden and giving man access to it would have been an exercise in futility. It was the Tree of the Knowlege of Good and Evil that was forbidden. And since Man already had a knowlege of Good (he walked with God in the cool of the day), all that tree could offer was a knowlege of evil. God said, "You eat it, you die." They ate it, they died. The corruption of their lives that would eventually lead to their deaths and those of all their unborn children began at that moment. At least, that is how I see it. In the OLMN Dariel the Aged aka Dave Milner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]