I agree with most of what you said Joe. I too think that the seccond Character class "possibility" is too much like AD&D and way too much like magic...for my personal comfort anyway. Perhaps you could (or someone else since you are so busy with your job :) decide on some guidelines for creation in the DR world view. What I mean is it is hard for people in general to see DR as a tool to teach Christ sometimes. It can get lost as the main point in all of the revisions and editions and discussions and so on. Perhaps a short reminder list could be published, via e-memo, that although having fun and being creative is an important factor...the point is not just to teach principles....but to show the way to (and of) the Risen Lord. Just a suggestion. Wind to thy wings Winter