Just for information, there are a couple of spreadsheets around that do all the math. You roll the die for the Character Strengths, ST and AG, and it does all the rest. I have one that uses the formulas from the LRH, and has the extra abilities and special characters that we have, so far, in 2ED. Jack > > I would have to respectfully diagree with you on DR being "simple" > and less > > "complex" then GURPS or (A)D&D. DR 1st Edition, with it's many > attributes > > and many math driven attribute durived skills, is the third most > complex > > character creation mechanic I've seen (Role-Master taking top > billing, with > > RIFTS in close persuite). > > I have to agree with this point. DR character generation is not > easy. It is simple math though. DragonRaid, the Christian Scripture memorization game at for Teens and Young Adults http://www.hope2help.com/dragonraid Try learning the Christian walk in a Narnia-type world and a role-playing game