DeWayne writes:

> Comments on the NPB "The Great Rescue of EdenAgain" portion:

> IMHO:

> When reading through the material on how the OverLord gave his
> life to free His people and create the Liberated land, I have
> always been less than satisfied with some parts of its
> presentation (not its concept).

> The appearance of the OverLord in human form on EdenAgain is
> expressed in the word:
> "Finally, at the time of His good pleasure, the Maker limited the
> control allowed to the Great Red Dragon by sending His own
> OverLord for a brief but decisive visit to the planet EdenAgain."
> The wording is, at least for me, unclear.  Did God send someone
> who is God's OverLord to EdenAgain?  Is the OverLord someone
> different from God?  The wording is not very clear.

It is made very clear in the rest of the text that the OverLord is Christ,
therefore, God the Son.  The Maker is God the Father.  The wording can be a
bit better though.


> As the diety of Christ, and the "singleness" of the Godhead are
> such important issues, I would like to see this more clearly
> stated.  There should be not misunderstanding that the OverLord
> is God Himself come for a "brief but decisive visit to the planet."

? God = OverLord = Unseen Spirit.  So God did come to the planet himself.
It depends on how you look at it, I suppose.


> >From here we have the portion where the OverLord sacrifices
> Himself by becoming a wall of water.  The dragons are driven
> back. The Called-Out-Ones continue to flee to a cavern in the
> south.  Then the dragons seem to take a leisurely vacation
> waiting for their fire to return before thinking about maybe
> going after the people again.

> The actual wording:
> "A few days later, just as the rested dragon legion was preparing
> to resume the chase, the continent erupted with a mighty roar
> into a mass of billowing, crumbling earth that rose higher and higher."

> Could we help the suspense a little more by having the dragons,
> who have been searching all along, find the Called-Out-Ones
> hiding place and begin an all out assult against the cavern to
> destroy them?

No, the dragons came close to dying, so they would not be searching, they
would be recuperating.  Since the Called-Out-Ones are on a pennisula of
land, and probably have no ships, the dragons have them cornered.  They just
have to round them up.  No hurry.


> Instead of "a few days later" would it help the
> allegory to make it on "the third day"?  This should still be
> suffice time for the dragons to recover.

A "few" can be three or more, so there is no need to be specific.


> Then the cavern in which the Called-Out-Ones are hidden begins to
> rise into a towering mountain.

The text does not say that.  The ground erupted, not a cavern.


>The text says next: "Recognizing
> the triumphant presence of their eternal enemy, whom they had
> presumed destroyed,..." I can see their recognizing His power, or
> His hand at work, but His PRESENCE?

Yes.  Power can equate to presence.  Unless one can project power from a
distance.  And, since the drgons are partially spiritual beings (they can
see Spiritual Armor) they may be able to see things humans cannot.

Anyway, we have already rewritten this to say to the effect that the
resurrected OverLord was rising above the new mountains.


> Back to the text: "In this
> way, the OverLord of Many Names returned from death to establish
> victory over the evil dragons."  How did he return, as a mountain
> range?  The text could be clearer.

In the original, yes.  Since he changed himself into a wall of water,
turning into a wall of rock shouldn't be a problem.  But, as I noted above,
we have clarified that section a bit.


> I like the whole concept of how He rescue His people by not only
> driving back the enemy, but creating a whole new kingdom in which
> they can dwell with safety.  But I would like to see some changes
> in the presentation.

> The thing that make Christianity so unique is that we have a
> risen Savior.  No other religion can claim that.  There have been
> leaders, heroes, and spiritual man all down through history.
> Many have sacrificed their lives for others.  Many have paid
> whatever price was needed to deliver others.  But only Christ
> returned from the dead.

> I feel that we need an appearance, bodily and alive, of the
> OverLord Himself at this time.  Just as the dragons are about to
> burst their way into the cavern where the Called-Out-Ones are
> trapped, the OverLord Himself should appear in the enterance and
> with a mighty shout, command the dragons back and the mountain to
> rise.  Then the dragons would recognize His presence.  This is
> the way he "returned from the death to establish victory over the
> evil dragons."

We have added a bit about the OverLord passing on the Sacred Scrolls.


> The OverLord should then somehow impart to his people the Second
> Birth.  Whether he should breath on them, or (since water was an
> important part of their deliverance) "baptize" them or something
> so that they become the TwiceBorn.  He then empowers and
> commissions them to take that liberation to the whole world.
> They become those who "set out on many exciting adventures,
> accomplishing much good for the OverLord of Many Names."

There could be a way of working that in.  But, we do not have to get so
detailed that the narrative takes up a a whole chapter by itself.


> Anyone who has not visited it recently should go by the site:
> http://www.newprovidencecog.org/church_016.htm
> where the author(s) present a History of EdenAgain that includes
> many of the things I would like to see added to the storyline to
> help it.  (I knew I have seen your name repeatedly in our
> discussions - but I can't remember it at the second , and I did
> not see it at the site.  Sorry!!)

That is Dan Knights's website, but I wrote that bit of history a couple of
years ago, and posted it to this list back a while back.  There is a lot
more detail that we cannot pass on, but suffice it to say that there will be
more detailed history.

Joe