Greetings.
       I disagree.  I like the table posted on the 2nd ed. site, with no 
penalties.  Because HE is a gift from the OverLord, there should be no 
penalty.  If one is worried that players will use it too much, maybe have the 
player take a HE skill check before they enter battle (just an idea).

>===== Original Message From Tor Helland <tor@...> =====
>Joseph K Revesz wrote:
>>> [1] February 2003 discussion favourite:
>>> Ability Ratings
>>> 1 + l on damage
>>> 2 + l on damage, - 1 Defense
>>> 3 + 1 on damage, + 1 on Weapon Abilities (Attack only), - 1 Defense
>>> 4 + 1 on damage, + 1 on Weapon Abilities (Attack only), - 1 Defense
>>> 5 + 2 on damage, + 1 on Weapon Abilities (Attack only), - 1 Defense
>>> 6 + 2 on damage, + 1 on Weapon Abilities (Attack only), - 2 Defense
>>> 7 + 2 on damage, + 2 on Weapon Abilities (Attack only), - 2 Defense
>>> 8 + 2 on damage, + 2 on Weapon Abilities (Attack only), - 2 Defense
>>> 9 + 3 on damage, + 2 on Weapon Abilities (Attack only), - 2 Defense
>>> 10 + 3 on damage, + 3 on Weapon Abilities (Attack only), - 3 Defense
>>
>> This one is my choice for a few reasons.  One, it represents a loss of
>> control because of Hatred of Evil.  Second and third, it does not make
>> the bonus too strong nor the penalty too harsh.
>
>I second this one. I think the players like that there is a risk associated
>with their choice of Ability. (Like in the Matrix movie - people didn't
>accept a world where everything went smooth.)
>
>-tor
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							steve brown
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