Earlier in the year I was exploring the various ways of incorporating  
Cocoa views in Carbon windows. At that time, my efforts were not well  
received so I abandoned the idea. Anyhow, earlier today, Michele  
reminded me of this stuff, thinking it "could be the basis of a new  
runtime". Well, I don't know about that but for everyone's amusement,  
I've uploaded one of the demos (CircularSlider) to fbcocoa's files  
area: <http://freegroups.net/groups/fbcocoa/www/>.

Bernie