I think Poser 3's temp files ate some of my other files the other night when I got too low on free space, and they were, so politely, the directories of my disk with all my main programming and a lot of other files. Read about some other people losing system folders and other things when using Poser 3. I had been having a lot of crashes with other programs previously, so was getting ready to do a clean system install. But, using Poser 3, I got to zero disk space saving PICT files when using the program (or rendering), upon quitting Poser trashing files would work for 10 seconds leaving a few hundred K available, then that space would quickly go away in 20 k increments or so all on its own until back to zero. Like it had a flesh eating bit-eating bacteria. I bought another HD to recover the data to , but a lot of it doesn't work even though it looks like a file. Lot of "unmapped memory exception" or other errors using them. Anyway, until the ORB drive (2.2 gig removable drive $199, $29.95 cartridges, Castlewood) shows up next month and I can then become BackUp Evangelist with a vengeance, as well with affordability, can anyone advise me on a couple of things? 1. Norton's UnErase works for some files but not all. Will TechTool Pro recover them any better, assuming they aren't all eaten up like my last 8 months of email appear to be? Any TechTool recovery tool people out there? 2. Once I re-initialize the disk (does not mount currently, is "unrecognizable") can I assume that if it passes read/write tests that it will work again, fine enough? Is this something that is a directory problem from overwrites or some other problem? Re-initializing will just affect that partition alone, correct? Then after that, should just all be like a new blank partition? (disk) I have to wonder if it was Norton that killed it trying to fix it in the first place. :) Fixed one error, then couldn't fix the next, then next thing I know, no more disk on startup. Well, actually, might have already been at that point. This is a regular HFS partition , the other on this drive is HFSplus and that partition works fine still. Now I am really doomed with 3 drives on this Umax, a 4.3gig, a 3.2 gig, and the new 4.5 gig. Anyway, to all those who think it won't ever happen to them, took me 6 years to lose a disk. I was beggining to feel I was immune; I had even thunk it that night, earlier. Now I am paranoid data man. ORB, hurry... :) So many gigs, so little time. Robert Covington Discoverer, Bit-Eating Flash Virus Evangelist, Backituporloseitall