mel and others- please include me in any backchannelling on taking futurebasic apps cross-platform. most of the programs i write are apps to generate standalone executeable electronic publications, and those standalones really need to be cross-platform. initially, all i need is a "player" for the pc-side. (the creative people who generally make these e-publications are on the mac side, of course, but their customers are on the stupid platform.) :+) i'd love it if andy/staz would give us the capability, but i need to find some other alternative if they don't. so far, from the reaction of this list, delphi is the clear winner for me, as i want the pc-side standalones to be as small, fast, resource-frugal, and powerful as the ones futurebasic creates for the mac side... -bowerbird