Rick Brown has given a very full answer to the question posed by Robert Covington. I would just like to add a small point in case it would be helpful. When I was trying to save a PICT picture whose colours I had changed and posted a query to the mailing list early in April, Robert Purves made me aware of USR GETPICT, which returned a handle to the changed PICT. I don't know whether this is relevant to Robert Covington's problem. Vic Maslen