Bowerbird@... said something like: > i'd like to do this: > ndt$=name$+" "+date$+" "+time$ > output file ndt$ > > (ignore for now the fact that the colons > in time$ would cause an error in a filename, > as i would replace them with semi-colons.) If you really want to do this, then grab a copy of my "Rez" plugin. All you have to do is add a option-shift-v character to the end of your output file name and it will append the date and time: OUTPUT FILE "My App×" and you will get: My App×01/02/99 10.58 The source is provided, so you can change the formatting if you need to. The only problem I found while adding this feature, was that if you built an app 2 times within the space of a minute, you would get a duplicate file name error. If you wanted to, you could add "seconds" to get around this problem , but then the apps name would have to be quite small - we only have about 30 chars to play with. You could also just delete the offending file, but I usually stear clear of deleteing anything, just incase I make a mistake! http://www.ozemail.com.au/~benjamen/ Jamin