Sean -G3- said something like: > I want to use the layer manager to find if a window exists, and if it > does, I want to send a chr(13) to the app. > Take a look at Mars' jGNE shell. This uses the Apple approved way of playing with all events for all apps. I managed to use it to dismiss all those pesky "File Server has Collapsed" AFP messages. It works quite well. Jamin