>(Aside; if anybody has ever used the EDT editor on a VAX or Alpha, the >numeric keypad is used for movement and such. It's a royal pain. "2" goes >to end of line, "0" goes to start of next line, "-" deletes a word, "*" >deletes a line... meanwhile, there's 15 perfectly-good function keys >sitting across the top of the keyboard doing nothing - except F10, which >is exit... and nobody can remember _what_ the keys do unless they use >them every day. Worse, "Home" does a "find", "End" does a "select"...) If you used a VAX system through telnet, you were most likely using a "standard" keyboard. I believe there are keyboards designed specifically for the VAX. The machine itself (in some dark closet with a 10base-T link) probably has a special keyboard. I haven't worked with them too much, but I started programming with software written for VMS (Virtual Management System, I beleive) on an Alpha server. Sean