>Ray said: >3. From monitoring this list for a week since >joining, I get the feeling that few people here use PG, that "it is >not for the _real_ programmers." Maybe I am wrong. Ray, I believe there are many that use PG. It is a good tool and has a place in everyone's toolbox. I don't think anyone is less of a programmer for using it. Many of my projects both private and public shareware/freeware were written with PG and I definitely consider myself a "_real_" programmer having done this professionally for over 26 years. Sorry for the soapbox. Couldn't resist. Brian