Joe,
	I understand what you guys are say'n.  actually, that is the best
way to learn/the hard way/ struggle to solve a problem.  when i started, i
almost lost interest because i was not succeeding.  but when you guys gave
me a starting point, it really really helped me out and boosted my interest
to read the manual.  i was not even sure which one was the manual/where to
look for some certain things until someone pointed out to me that i needed
to read the manuals.  i thank you guys.

	Maurice