Hee hee, well I may have something really big in the pot soon enough. BetterPlayer itself is a nice open source project but it doesn't cause any loss, but if I was to open source one of our top products (after I figure a way to hide the register codes from the average programmer) things will be interesting, seriously I am really thinking of open sourcing Cave Dig 2.1 when it makes it out. In a message dated 2/4/00 1:31:41 PM, Bowerbird@... writes: >contests can be fun >if we take them in fun >(to see what we can do) >and don't take them personally... > >how about we open-source the contest results, >and make everyone the big winner in the long run...?