G'day All, I am trying to find the size of a User rectangle before oppening any windows in my application so I can set up some off screen GWorlds. Using PGs built in FNs pGGetRef & pGgetObj doesn't cut it, that is it wont load PG's object record with the necessary data, ie gObjT. Does anyone know how to do it? Regards, Chris Wyatt, in Bendigo, Australia.