I have said this in the past... I shall probably repeat it again in the future... If you're into programming games on a mac grab a copy of tricks of the 'mac Game programming Gurus' - you should find a link to it and all the relevant details in the euroFB bookshop (go to <http://euro.futurebasic.com/> and seek out the book store. You will find all sorts of physics, vectors, matrices and all to get your games moving smoothly and funly. All the best :-j