[futurebasic] Re: [FB] (x-fb) Apple share limits?

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From: Ken Shmidheiser <k.shmidheiser@...>
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 22:58:35 -0400
Robert Covington asked:
>  I am trying to offload an old harddrive to a new one, using 2 computers
>  connected via Appleshare.
>
>
>  The volumes which are 2,4.9,and 5 Gigabyte all show on the client side as
>  only 1.9 Gigabyte in the finder Get info.
>
>  My question is : Does this mean only the first 1.9 Gigabyte of files found
>  can be copied per volume?
>
>  Information on this welcome. Timely information most welcome.
>  Solutions very welcome.
>
>  This is a major frustration as one might imagine.
>
>  I am looking at having to shuffle a SCSI disk to the new drive, clear it
>  out, then have to transfer data between the 2 IDE's via that shuffle SCSI.
>
>  Might be faster anyway, but I don't want to have to do 4 HD swaps.
>
>  Robert Covington

Robert, perhaps this will help:

Through System 7.5.3, AppleShare could handle volumes up to 2GB. 
Systems newer than 7.5.3 can handle volumes up to 4GB, but AppleShare 
volumes bigger than 2GB require a newer version of the AppleShare 
client to work properly, the AppleShare client 3.6.x that came with 
Systems 7.5.3 and 7.5.5 won't cut it.

There is an upgrade to AppleShare client 3.7.4 on the Apple legacy 
web support site that will work with these systems:

<http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Networking-Communications/AppleShare_Client/AppleShare_Client_3.7.4.img.bin>

and using this allows 4GB volumes on Systems 7.5.3 and later. Snag 
this and install it on the legacy Mac and you should be able to see 
the entire partition via AppleShare.

Handling volumes >4GB requires System 7.6 or later.

(If you have a ZIP drive, you might consider loading OS 7.6 or 8.1 
onto the ZIP, and booting the legacy machine from it which will allow 
your network to see more than 4 gigs.)

If you plan to use LocalTalk for the file transfer, you are in for a 
slow, laborius-- but doable-- process. A much better solution would 
be to connect your two machines via ethernet. If you have an ethernet 
hub available, you would simply run Cat-5 RJ45 patch cables from the 
hub to each machine, assign each machine an Owner Name and User Name 
(password isn't necessary, just dismiss the dialog that asks for it) 
using either the File Sharing or Sharing Setup control panel, 
depending on the OS on that machine. Mount the volume you want to 
copy in the Chooser of the faster machine, and begin your transfer.

(If your new IDE drives are not yet loaded, be sure to format them in 
HFS+. The extended format allows a smaller boot block size and saves 
mucho room.)

A cheaper option would be to make or buy a crossover cable ethernet-- 
$7 to $12 at CompUSA, Office Depot, etc., (if you get stuck let me 
know, I'll make a crossover for you free and ship it to you as an 
expression for my appreciation for Compositor and all you fine help 
you give us here.) With the crossover you can bypass the hub and 
connect the Macs directly. I carry a couple in my tool kit all the 
time.

I don't remember you specifying your machine types, but I assume at 
least one is old. If either or both of your Macs have the funky old 
Apple AAUI ethernet port, you need 10BT AAUI Transceiver/s for 
connect the RJ45 lines. You can find AAUI (Apple's Awfully Ugly 
Interface) transceivers used on the net for $5. New they are $25 to 
$45, which for what you want to do is probably cost prohibitive. If 
you need the transceivers and have a small daily newspaper nearby, I 
would stop by and ask to talk with the person who handles computer 
support. Tell him/her that you need a couple Mac AAUI transceiver/s 
for a day for a file transfer and ask how much it would cost to rent 
them. Bet you get them free. Might even ask if they have an old 
10-BaseT ethernet hub lying around. Most newspapers are moving up to 
newer machines and have the legacy equipment gathering dust on the 
shelf.

Too bad you're not closer, I'd be more than glad to provide the 
equipment. (I sitting here looking at spare cables, hubs, drives, 
external CDR-RW burners, etc.)  :-{

I'm not sure what Macs you are trying to do this with, or their 
configurations. But an alternative would be to take the old SCSI, 
change the SCSI jumper settings to an address other than zero and 
either pull the two terminating resistor packs (older drives) or 
change the terminator jumper setting (newer drives) and connect the 
legacy drive to your new SCSI chain. Of course, if the new machine is 
newer than a Beige G3, you would need a SCSI card. (I equip all my 
new Macs with bootable Adaptec SCSI cards to handle legacy 
peripherals.)

HTH,

Ken