i remember that QuarkXPress was notorious [v2 to 3...] for a particular file-saving problem; if it bombed when the doc was open, the doc was lost. i particularly remember in a studio where i once worked having just finish a 200 odd page guide on the [delightful] french region named 'charente-maritime', and we were making a backup copy, from XPress, to another disk, when the power went. not only was the copy lost - normal, it wasn't finished - but the original! acting on this i would suppose that a 'safe' save procedure should do the following: - determine that there is enough space on the target volume - create a file in the temp folder of that volume - transfer the original file to trash - transfer the saved file from temp to target folder - delete the temp file normally with a process like this, the last copy will not be touched and so be available in the event of a crash. also, if their is a problem before the new saved file gets transferred to the target folder, the user can be told that the saved file _may_ be found in the 'temporary items' folder in the trash. question: am i being [overly] paranoid? has anyone done this? does the system do it like this anyway? :-j