le 2001/09/14 0:28, Charlie Dickman à 3tothe4th@... a écrit : > Thought everyone would appreciate hearing positive comments from another > country, especially today. The fact that most of the "information" is false does not remove the spirit in which it is intended, which is a fine thing. there are however enough things about the people in the u.s. that _are_ true to render this unneeded. you only have to look at how, not only the american people are staying together magnificently in this painful time of need and crisis, but also the gestures of sympathy and solidarity [and more] coming from the most unlikely places to see that in times of need they really are appreciated. in fact, there are so many extremely unlikely peoples offering their support to the american people that, once we can safely look back on the recent events, even if only half of the promises remain true there's a chance that the world could be a better place to live in. and that, my friends, is the best way to banish terrorism and suffering from the face of the earth. :-j in france we can't give blood for the american wounded as there is no way, currently, of sending it over. the hospitals and red cross here are having to turn people away. the answer to this article: > Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable > editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television > commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as > printed in the Congressional Record: > > "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most > generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth." This is opinion, not fact. I disagree on this point, but neither is important. > Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of > the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and > forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying > even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. the people of the united states agree to help rebuild the world after the second world war, including their own country. this was a humanitarian gesture. the united states was not razed as parts of france, germany and japan were. the economy was not in ruin. the marshall plan and similar operations were magnificent and in europe inspired the beginnings of the european economic community. cynics can say that this was the way that american finance spread over the world. as in all cynical statements, there is a part of truth, but this doesn't change the essential. i can only speak for countries that i know - france and britain. not only have all debts been paid financially, but there remains a strong capital of sympathy for the american people. the central european bank has just opened a credit line of tens of millions of euros in order to help the federal bank support the dollar against speculators who will try to profit from the situation once trading starts up again. this is just one, and not an exceptional, gesture of solidarity that we have seen between europe and the us since the second world war. > When the France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans > who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the > streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. As i have already stated, american aid to france was not only appreciated but lead to the creation of the eec. to be insulted and swindled on the streets of paris is smart-ass remark that bears no relevance to the situation. france has become, almost without trying, the primary destination in the world. the unfriendliness of french cafetiers and waiters is legendary and did nothing to stem this. perhaps people came because of this. today, the french tourism industry has leaned its lesson, and you are no swindled in paris than in any capital in the world. the remark however is ridiculous and has no bearing on how the american people are seen, nor appreciated, in the world. > When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in > to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. > Nobody helped. Europe has special forces trained in disaster relief. brigades of french and german forces went to the us to help. they didn't parade in front of cameras, they did their small part and went back home. everytime disaster strikes the us, and many other countries, red cross and other organisations will tell you that they are inundated with contributions. it is false to say that europe never helps out the us people in need. > The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into > discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about > the decadent, warmongering Americans. I have already mentionned the truman and the marshall plan. newspapers all over the world in democratic countries point the finger at problems home and abroad, that is a free press as you say below. the fact that a free press can exist is a result of the us intervention. so this statement is a contradiaction. are the americans decadent and warmongering? the action of the american state [not the people] in chili, panama, afghanistan, vietnam, iran, korea and other countries is not blameless. does this mean that the people are warmongering? no, it means that people, there as here, rarely get the politicians that they deserve which is a much vaster question. the americans are seen from europe, through the small end of the telescope as uncouthful, arrogant, ignorant, crass, shallow and i could continue. if america is howard stern, eminem, beavis and butthead then they could be right. if america is steven j gould, don delillo, martin luther king or nicholas negroponte, then it is obviously not true. each country has its own high and low, the americas being larger has more extremes and more of everything. this does not imply that it is more or less decadent than any other country. and all americans that i have met [including this list] have been charming, open, friendly people. this paragraph is thus an abject generalisation. > I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the > erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other > country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the > Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why > do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? because they can't afford airbus? this paragraph is ridiculously inaccurate. so much so i don't need to say more: building airplanes is no measure of the progress, civilisation or 'likeability' of any people. > Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the > moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk > about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. > You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not > once, but several times - and safely home again. the word should be technology. like above, this has no bearing on anything. while sending people to the moon was a magnificent gesture, it was a cold war competition between kennedy and the ussr. you can argue that the ends justified the means as in part the space race contributed in no small manner to the fall of the soviet union. today, europe, japan and china all have space programs. the question is not sending people to the moon but all working together to put up manned stations in space. and when we go to mars it will be hand in hand. > You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store > window for everybody to look at . as i have said before this is a free press, and you will find the same all over the world. governments fall, directors resign regularly because of the press action, justified in most cases. again this changes nothing about the american people. > Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our > streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are > getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. europe [sweden for example, but also france and britain, even germany] accepted just as many draft dodgers as canada. and again, i don't see the relevance of this statement. > When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through > age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad > and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both > are still broke. french and german railways broke down through sabotage and bombing. since the second world war they have been independant entities with no outside intervention. they developed their own technologies that today they are they are selling now around the world. this statement is false on both counts. > I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other > people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to > the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during > the San Francisco earthquake. i have already answered this above concerning disaster relief. rhetorical repetition does not make something true. > Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired > of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with > their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at > the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is > not one of those." no-one is gloating over the current situation and the world is riveted to the transistor, the newspaper or the television screen. the heart of the world is currently on the american east coast, and that heart is bleeding. justice is best served by truth, not by jingoism.