le 2001/10/01 0:40, Craig Hoyt à aztech4mac@... a écrit :

> Waiting for the flak.
no flak, just remarks.

a post is clear to the postee. always. i suffer from this too. however
no-one will read a post with the same clairvoyance as the postee. we flick
rabidly through and catch on a phrase here and there. alain probably reads
better than most as he doesn't quick read and pours over every word.

mea culpa. i saw 'drag a file or folder onto my application window', and
then 'I've played with the finderInfo command and even put in a file type of
"fldr" and "****" and' and thought: gloops, he's clutching at straws, what
really does he want? dropping to icon, or dropping to window? both? hence my
post... [he steps forward, rustles his papers and prepares his defense] i
did however try to pin down the different fields 'finder' vs 'drag manager'
and try to offer a path for each. no, i won't write your code for you [but i
will send available code], but i will point you in the right direction -
which i thought that i did.

that alain's url was off is sad, and i'm sure that he'll correct it. i am
also sure that alain sent me some code recently, that now i better
understand your need, does half -> it gives the ref of a dropped
application. apart from that, if you need a file, just get drops of a type
"hfs ", and build an AEDesc from that. in fact the info is in the
dragmanager programmer's guide at:
<http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macos8/pdf/DragMgrProgrammersGuide.pdf>
at the end of the long mail that i posted concerning the drag manager. and
it is precisely because the drag manager is complex that i am breaking it
down into episodes to explain online.

this may seem that i'm withholding info here. i'm not. i have dealt with
drags of text and own data, but never hfs objects, so i have no canned code,
no tips, no experience in that matter. i have seen references to all this
and thoughht that i passed on those references.

> Answers to questions not asked or misinformation passed on as answers are
> much worse that poorly stated questions. We have extremely intelligent
> people on the List and I find it hard to understand why all can't translate
> moron to English. Maybe Heather should consider this as the language she
> should take but this is probably a life-long study.
> 
> An old carpenters axiom is 'measure twice and cut once"... I'd like to
> paraphrase this as an axiom for the List 'read twice and answer once'.

this seems a very agressive tone for someone asking others to help him.
common sense says that if you post and don't get the right answers, rephrase
and post again - like the first part. this list aint a tech support hotline;
it's just folk who gather to share info. our only obligation is the pleasure
that we get when sharing, and we share better when we feel happy and
appreciated, like most folks in fact.

most folks 'read half and post twice'; if you want a quick and easy answer,
then it's wiser to take that into account, no?

anyway, code is speeding to you backchannel. not because you got cross, but
because i understood better now what you're talking about.

dat's all.

:-j