Rc wrote: > I don't think that GetFontFamilyFromMenuSelection will work, because > it's a submenu, and sending out just a submenu ID might not work? Will > try it anyway It works if I sent it the main menu item, but returns no FontStyle, just the family. As for any of the heirarchals, no juice. But having the name works well enough for now...setting the font in the beast I am working on via familyID, not working just yet, set by name does in general. But as for info, for a style selection by a hierarchicalicicacal, I know : FontFamilyID Main family Name of the Font (via parent item backtrack) Variant as to "Bold", "Narrow" etc (by name alone) Not sure where to go from there. But again, just having the fontname means at least that font gets set , just without the variant, whereas before I had to use a default in the case of a hierarchic choice. Robert