On Jan 1, 2004, at 10:35 AM, Chip Griffin wrote: > OK, below is the latest crash information cut and pasted from the > crash reporter log. A brief description of how it crashes. I > double-click on the application. It's icon bounces about once. The > clock window appears but is blank. It sits there for about five > seconds but then the window disappears and the icon leaves the doc. I > then get the submit report dialog. Chip, thanks for the info. I don't have a solution for you. Assuming you haven't hacked your system (and aren't using any software that dabbles with your system), this would appear to be an application failure. I'm also assuming you aren't seeing any other applications quitting like this. Typically, I have traced these down using Robin Craig's ConsoleTracker (since to my knowledge Macsbug is not available in X----C.T. available on rel 7 ) but this requires source code which R.C. and Ted might be persuaded to part with in order to solve this. This failure can be caused by different coding errors but typically trying to access memory that you shouldn't is one I've seen the most often (as in accessing the 9999th member of an array that has only 20 members). Sometimes, depending on machine configuration (how much memory and other items----mine has 1GB), some inadvertent accesses are seen by the memory manager as permissible, while others fail. The lurking problem that only manifests itself in specific scenarios is one of the most diabolical issues developers face. Fortunately, this application is unlikely to be a pillar in your daily work, so as long as you can rule out a problem with your own system, just avoiding it should suffice. Good luck. Brian