>> Result=FN GetSysFolderVol(_kPreferencesFolderType,_zTrue,fs) >> >> FN FBMakeFSSpec( fs.vRefNum, fs.ParID, fs.name, fs ) >> '(I don't know if the above line is strictly necessary, but it doesn't >> hurt) > > I couldn't get that to work as I expected. Actually, I cut and pasted - here's the full routine, as I use it. Result=FN GetSysFolderVol(_kPreferencesFolderType,_zTrue,fs)'This gets us the Mac's preferences folder Result=fn resolvealiasfile(@fs,_zTrue,@IsFolder,@WasAlias) FN FBMakeFSSpec( fs.vRefNum, fs.ParID, fs.name, fs ) gLWFileRef(_Prefs)=fs.vRefNum gLWFileID(_Prefs)=fs.ParID 'The following lines then make a "Lightwright Prefs" folder within the general preferences folder: FN FBMakeFSSpec( gLWFileRef(_Prefs), gLWFileID(_Prefs), "Lightwright Prefs", fs )'Make the spec for it gLWFileID(_Prefs)=FN GetFolderDirID( fs, _zTrue )'Make the folder, if necessary gLWFileRef(_Prefs)=fs.vRefNum ------------------------------------------ 'At that point, to save to the Preferences file, I just set myFSSpec.name="Settings" myFsSpec.vRefnum=gLWFileRef(_Prefs) myFsSpec.parID=gLWFileID(_Prefs) And then use OPEN "O",1,@fs,1 To open the file and write to it. (The gLWFileID() array is defined as a long, the others are all regular integers. I have a whole bunch of different kinds of files, all with various locations & weirdnesses - hence the array of info. I suppose I could use an array of records instead, but the code pre-dates being able to use them.) To get data from the Application Support folder, I use this chunk of code: type&=_"asup" '_kApplicatonsSupportFolderType CreateIt=_false #IF CarbonLib=0 LONG IF FN FINDFOLDER (_kOnSystemDisk,type&,CreateIt,Drive%,DirID&) = _NoErr fs.vRefNum=Drive% fs.ParID=DirID& Result=_zTrue end if #ELSE LONG IF FN FINDFOLDER (_kOnAppropriateDisk,type&,CreateIt,Drive%,DirID&) = _NoErr fs.vRefNum=Drive% fs.ParID=DirID& Result=_zTrue end if #ENDIF I set fs.name="Lightwright Registration Info" and then use open "I",2,@fs,1 to read the actual info. I hope this makes things a bit clearer. - John ------------------ John McKernon misc@...