Robert - You replied: > The symptoms I see are not precisely as you describe. > 1. Dragging the thumb button works correctly > 2. Clicking the narrow horizontal bar works correctly > 3. Clicking elsewhere in the control's Rect gives a draggable ghost > image. This is not supposed to happen for a control with live feedback. Thanks for looking into this. I applied your suggested fix to 'FN ClickOnActiveControl' in 'Rntm Appearance.Incl', and it indeed did fix condition #3 (which I had not previously noticed). Since condition #1 still gives a draggable ghost on my machine (FB^3 R7 on a 17" iMac with OSX 10.3.2), I dug into 'FN ClickOnActiveControl' and found these lines: // here I have tried to discover supportsLive, probably wrongly RP supportsLive = fn HasControlFeature( c, _kControlSupportsLiveFeedback ) I replaced the second line with: supportslive = _zTrue Condition #1 now acts as I would expect, although I realize that this is not a proper fix. I suspect, as you speculated in your notes, that 'FN HasControlFeature()' is not returning the proper answer in my particular environment. I looked at 'FN HasControlFeature()': // masked boolean result of SendControlMessage local local fn HasControlFeature( c as ControlRef, resultMask as long ) end fn = ( (fn SendControlMessage( c, _kControlMsgGetFeatures, 0 ) and resultMask) != 0 ) According to the docs for FN SendControlMessage() on the Apple site at <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/Control_Manager/controlman_ref/function_group_11.html#//apple_ref/c/func/SendControlMessage>, this seems like it would work. Since FN SendControlMessage() is what Apple calls a 'Deprecated Function', is it possible that they are using an older version of '_kControlMsgGetFeatures' constant in the call? Just a wild idea. Thanks again for your help, Walter Lenk -- =========================================== Walter Lenk Cambridge Ma 617-547-7781 ===========================================