Gang, Robert Purves gave me this: legalPMRect.left = 0 legalPMRect.top = 0 legalPMRect.right = 594 legalPMRect.bottom = 985 err = fn PMSetPhysicalPaperSize( gFBPageFormat, legalPMRect ) and it is a great tool. However 10.3.n breaks PMSetPhysicalPaperSize( gFBPageFormat, legalPMRect ) Apple seems to think this is legacy code. Is there another toolbox that will set the paper size. Much thanks in advance. ---- Best Wishes, George http://www.pggp.com