We have always used a green cube as our logo and as John has already pointed out, there are only so many colors. As to leaves, we used a tree in one advertising campaign for Dr. Dobbs Journal and as a result, we are using the tree graphic in the community section of our web site because a community is like a tree (hopefully growing ever larger). And the person that came up with the tree idea was the person that does our ad design. We no longer use the tree graphic in advertising. We only ran it for 4 or 5 issues of one magazine. I have just realized what the similarity is that some of you are talking about. The Staz logo appears to be a floppy disk tilted at an angle. The basic shape of which is a hexagon. The outline of our cube is also a hexagon as well. And of course they are both green but the similarities end there. There are many logos from many different companies and have things in common with others but until just now, I could not have told you what the color of the Staz logo is or what it looks like. On Nov 8, 2004, at 10:12 AM, tedd wrote: > In any event, that's my "opinion" -- I just expected a more credible > explanation as to the similarities in appearance between the two > products. -- Geoff Perlman President and CEO REAL Software, Inc. REAL World 2005 - The REALbasic User Conference March 23rd - 25th, 2005, Austin, Texas <http://www.realsoftware.com/realworld>