[futurebasic] Re: [FB] lurkers and ide writers

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From: Matthew Beedle <matt@...>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 07:02:07 -0600
Geoff needs to just take a hint and stop being such an asshole.

Or is it true, REAL Software is trying to be a spitting image of 
Microsoft. They sure act like it.

They are off to be a good start.

On Dec 3, 2004, at 6:17 AM, Chris Stasny wrote:

> i'm not going to throw rocks at geoff. tho i must say that i do not 
> lurk on rb's list and i wonder why he is a covert listener here. i 
> sometimes send customers over to geoff when they call because i know 
> that fb is not a good fit and rb will be better for them. our concepts 
> and customers are very different.
> fb has pioneered most basic editor and compiler concepts just has 
> apple has pioneered most computer ideas. [perhaps that is why a 
> reviewer called us the model of the genre.] perhaps that is why geoff 
> keeps one eye peeled on the fb list.
> i see constant misrepresentations from rb & company and i do nothing 
> to dissuade. those guys are welcome to their thoughts. but as much as 
> our little company gets flamed, i can't help but wonder why every 
> version of rb looks more like fb than the last. and every move made by 
> real is another step in the direction of staz. [they now offer annual 
> subscriptions.] in fact the rb editor is now a [poor] copy of the fb 
> editor. it doesn't have block remarks, auto styling, case change, 
> adjustable remark tabs or anything. but i am sure that just because i 
> brought these to your attention, geoff, we'll see them in real basic 
> release 5.6.
> but the main point is that i am writing this on my list. the fb list. 
> not the rb list. understand the difference, geoff?
> -staz
> On Dec 2, 2004, at 9:18 PM, Geoff Perlman wrote:
>> Rewriting an application is not as big a project as many people 
>> think. They imagine the process of writing the application the first 
>> time but that's not a good comparison. Rewriting an application is 
>> much easier because you already know what the logic of the 
>> application is, how the UI should work, etc.
>> As for bugs, anytime you use a library that is not your own, you give 
>> up some control but gain the functionality of that library without 
>> having to take the time to write it yourself. Rather than make 
>> assumptions about REALbasic, sign on the the REALbasic mailing list 
>> and ask REALbasic users how often that is a problem for them.
>> On Dec 2, 2004, at 2:33 PM, Matthew Beedle wrote:
>> Geoff Perlman
>> President and CEO
>> REAL Software, Inc.
>> REAL World 2005 - The REALbasic User Conference
>> March 23rd - 25th, 2005, Austin, Texas
>> <http://www.realsoftware.com/realworld>
>> --
> -staz   -}-
> --