----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Beedle [mailto:matt@...] Sent: 4/12/2004 12:02:07 AM To: futurebasic@... Subject: Re: [FB] lurkers and ide writers > Geoff needs to just take a hint and stop being such an asshole. > > Or is it true, REAL Software is trying to be a spitting image of > Microsoft. They sure act like it. > Matty, there's no reason to be offensive. But I do have to agree that maybe Geoff should either contribute to FB or unsubscribe... Pete... (the other one...) > They are off to be a good start. > > > On Dec 3, 2004, at 6:17 AM, Chris Stasny wrote: > > > i'm not going to throw rocks at geoff. tho i must say that i do not > > lurk on rb's list and i wonder why he is a covert listener here. i > > sometimes send customers over to geoff when they call because i know > > that fb is not a good fit and rb will be better for them. our concepts > > and customers are very different. > > > > fb has pioneered most basic editor and compiler concepts just has > > apple has pioneered most computer ideas. [perhaps that is why a > > reviewer called us the model of the genre.] perhaps that is why geoff > > keeps one eye peeled on the fb list. > > i see constant misrepresentations from rb & company and i do nothing > > to dissuade. those guys are welcome to their thoughts. but as much as > > our little company gets flamed, i can't help but wonder why every > > version of rb looks more like fb than the last. and every move made by > > real is another step in the direction of staz. [they now offer annual > > subscriptions.] in fact the rb editor is now a [poor] copy of the fb > > editor. it doesn't have block remarks, auto styling, case change, > > adjustable remark tabs or anything. but i am sure that just because i > > brought these to your attention, geoff, we'll see them in real basic > > release 5.6. > > > > but the main point is that i am writing this on my list. the fb list. > > not the rb list. understand the difference, geoff? > > > > -staz > > > > On Dec 2, 2004, at 9:18 PM, Geoff Perlman wrote: > > > >> Rewriting an application is not as big a project as many people > >> think. They imagine the process of writing the application the first > >> time but that's not a good comparison. Rewriting an application is > >> much easier because you already know what the logic of the > >> application is, how the UI should work, etc. > >> > >> As for bugs, anytime you use a library that is not your own, you give > >> up some control but gain the functionality of that library without > >> having to take the time to write it yourself. Rather than make > >> assumptions about REALbasic, sign on the the REALbasic mailing list > >> and ask REALbasic users how often that is a problem for them. > >> > >> On Dec 2, 2004, at 2:33 PM, Matthew Beedle wrote: > >> Geoff Perlman > >> President and CEO > >> REAL Software, Inc. > >> > >> REAL World 2005 - The REALbasic User Conference > >> March 23rd - 25th, 2005, Austin, Texas > >> <http://www.realsoftware.com/realworld> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > > > > -staz -}- > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > ///\\\///\\\ATT > http://www.foxchange.com/~matt > > -- > >