This is true. This type of thing comes up on our lists from time to time and it ends with an experienced developer saying just what you said. On Jan 5, 2005, at 7:13 PM, John McKernon wrote: > Every development environment ever invented has pros and cons. Lump > 'em or > leave 'em. -- Geoff Perlman President and CEO REAL Software, Inc. REAL World 2005 - The REALbasic User Conference March 23rd - 25th, 2005, Austin, Texas <http://www.realsoftware.com/realworld>