On Monday, April 11, 2005, at 08:57  AM, tedd wrote:

>> On Sunday, April 10, 2005, at 08:49  PM, tedd wrote:
>>
>>> If I remember correctly, long, long ago, in some system past (maybe 
>>> from a Norton add-on), one could place the full date (i.e., April 
>>> 10, 2005) along with the time in the menu bar -- that's what I would 
>>> like to see without having to resort to writing my own os or buying 
>>> an add-on. As it is, can you do that with the stock os? If so, then 
>>> I stand corrected and please tell me how to do it. If not, then I 
>>> don't think it's too much of a request for an os.
>>
>> No, I can't make it do that. I presume you are aware though, that if 
>> you click on the time, it shows the date?
>
> Ahhh... No, I didn't realize that. Thanks!
>
> I wonder why it's dimmed? And I wonder why it's there? It's not a menu 
> choice. It looks more like Apple didn't know what to do with it, so 
> they stuck it in a menu. If you did that Jay, I would say you were 
> going against Apples HIG's. :-)

Yep, I bet you would. (Hate to have anyone think differently <smile>.) 
Maybe there's a reason they're HIG's and not HIR's.

I'd say it is a menu choice, dimmed because it's inactive. You might 
call it a PMC (Prescient Menu Choice), because it completes its 
function before you choose it. :-)

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