On Jan 15, 2006, at 6:17 AM, Ken Shmidheiser wrote: > -- Edit Text controls are nice, have huge capacity, but are bears > to do > something as simple as attach a scroll bar to. Good point. However, a scrolling text control is possible, and, implemented as shown in RP's YAST (Yet Another Scrolling Text) demo, has many benefits such as: (to quote from YAST) Quartz text multiple Undo and Redo no 32k character limit Unicode text scroll bar drag and drop auto cursor The benefits do not require any additional coding (except building the appropriate EDIT menu and edit menu entries). The biggest downside is it doesn't use FB's event handling, so handlers must be set up to intercept basic events. This demo is also a good way to learn how to bundle an application if you aren't doing that already. As Ken has already pointed out, carbon events and handlers are involved, so this is not is not a typical FB events-driven example. But it is the future, so learning will be time well-spent. It is possible some future release of FB will hide these details from us. My copy of the YAST demo is located at: /Examples/**Donations**/Robert P's Favorite Examples/OS X folder/ Windows, text, drawing/YAST folder Since my "CD" is often intermixed with other examples, it is possible the general CD does not have this demo (I don't remember at the moment). I'd be happy to send it backchannel if that is the case. Brian S.