Max Taylor wrote: > I know there are some of you out there. What are your thoughts on > this? ------------- Paul Bruneau wrote: I agree with your points, Max. I do not see the point of expending energy on a procedural-to-OO converter of some kind. It does not make sense. I will always hold Staz, Andy, FB and this list in a special place in my heart, but for me, FB is legacy (like Carbon is) and Cocoa is for new projects. ------------- Well, I widely agree with Max and I fully and a bit sadly agree with Paul. (Still hoping that there is a way to access the Cocoa-API for an opaque implementation of the FB-routines that are called by FB-keywords.) As most FB-listers may know, FB is also legacy for me and Java is for new projects but, as most listers may not know, Java for the Mac-platform in general is quite easy to convert to Cocoa-Code. Best -- Herbie ------------------------ <http://www.gluender.de>