Mark Chappell wrote: >>> 3. Is there a way to get FBtoC to create non-static edit fields >>> without showing the *#$(&@ focus rectangle (which, when it >>> disappears, leaves a several pixel-wide overdrawn area, thus >>> precluding tight packing of edit fields, as adjacent fields >>> overwrite each other) >> >> I don't know of a way. The FB5 demo below shows how to get the >> visual appearance of no focus rect. But it does this by erasing the >> system-drawn halo before it becomes visible, and won't serve your >> purpose. I think you will have to adjust your layout to leave at >> least 7 pixels between editable text fields. > > OK, that's clear enough. Thanks I forgot about HITextView, which has no focus ring. Without extra code (a handler for kEventControlDraw), it doesn't even have a frame. Close- packing is therefore no problem. Unfortunately, HITextView requires a compositing window (_kWindowCompositingAttribute) and this is likely to be prove difficult if you have a lot of old code that draws into the window. Anyway, for completeness, here's a minimal HITextView demo. Robert P. '-------------- include "Tlbx MacTextEditor.incl" local fn BuildWindow '~'1 dim as HIRect hiRect dim as HIViewRef txtView, contentView appearance window 1,,, _kDocumentWindowClass, _kWindowStandardHandlerAttribute _kWindowCompositingAttribute hiRect.origin.x = 100 hiRect.origin.y = 100 hiRect.size.width = 200 hiRect.size.height = 16 fn HIViewFindByID( fn HIViewGetRoot( window( _wndRef ) ), kHIViewWindowContentID.signature, kHIViewWindowContentID.id, @contentView ) fn HITextViewCreate( hiRect, 0, 0, @txtView ) fn HIViewSetVisible( txtView, _true ) fn HIViewAddSubview( contentView, txtView ) fn SetKeyboardFocus( window( _wndRef ), txtView, _kControlEditTextPart ) end fn edit menu 2 fn BuildWindow poke long event - 8, 0xFFFFFFFF do HandleEvents until gFBQuit '--------------