On Jan 25, 2009, at 3:22 PM, H. Gluender wrote:

These IDs appear to be related to font families:

> "Lucida Grande"		1024
> "Lucida Grande Bold"	1024
> "Helvetica"		  21
> "Helvetica Bold"	  21
> "Garamond Narrow"	1792
> "Avant Gard"		1889
> "AvantGard-Medium"     10067

Thanks for the above list. I will test these font names in my CG Demo  
for the values it returns and get back on the values I get.

FYI:

Back in 1988 I wrote a FB program named "FontLiner" that decoded "Type  
3" fonts, (those created by programs like "Fontographer, which some of  
you may remember as the first 'real' PostScript drawing program)  
stored in the system folder, and returned the information found  
therein in an "Adobe Illustrator" format file. That file then  
contained all of the fonts characters outlines, as Illustrator  
artwork, laid out in nice neat rows. Any one or combination could then  
be copied and pasted and used any way the designer needed.

This also lead to a call from "Adobe, Inc" that John Warnock (one of  
the owners) wanted to see me in his office. He was afraid that I had  
decoded their proprietary "Type 1" file format as was about to hand it  
to the whole world. Their font outline path designs were something  
they did not want in the hands of others. Being sly, at the time, I  
told him that I was not at liberty to reveal that information to him  
at that time. Of coarse, I didn't have the slightest clue as to the  
"Type 1" format but I was not going to let him know that.

The fact that any designer could now get the actual outlines to fonts,  
even if only from user defined fonts (non Adobe") lead to tons of  
designers boycotting Adobe fonts because once they got their hands on  
the outlines there was no going back. This put a lot of pressure on  
Adobe from graphic artists and the very next version of Illustrator  
came out with an option under the Font menu called "Create Outlines"  
that worked with all fonts at the time. Well, I guess they showed me  
but the graphics world got something they had come to demand and all  
fonts became better for it because of the size that sign shops and the  
like scaled things to. Even the smallest imperfection you would never  
see on a screen showed up magnified in large scale output. Almost  
every "Type 3" font needed reworked but the end results were better  
fonts.

FontLiner was the first and only program that did this and was the  
first ever to hand graphic artists type faces they could distort,  
blend together, stretch or modify in any way and made it able to send  
those same graphics to vinyl cutting machines via my FB program  
"SignPost". If you could draw it in Illustrator you could cut it out  
of vinyl at any size you wanted. Ken Shmidheiser actually has a friend  
in his home town that used it. There are still sign shops using it to  
this day, 20 years after the first version. Only drawback is that it  
does not run under OS X (yet).

Max Taylor
The MaxClass Guy