I failed to realize there was one other thing concerning images to the clipboard that I would need when I asked for help yesterday. I've spent today trying to find a command that would work, but it's just been an effort in futility. I need to be able to obtain the picture's boundsrect once I've retrieved an image from the clipboard in order to move it around and work with it. For years I used : GWCRect = [pictH] + 2 As you know this no longer works. After considerable searching this is all I could find that was new to me. fn QDGetPictureBounds(picH,GWCRect) Of course it didn't work. It's either because it's an old command or I'm doing something wrong. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Warren Lanford