On May 18, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Steve wrote: > of course you won't you have it invisible > Yes, I thought for some reason you wanted it invisible. Doing too many things at once. OTTOMH, I don’t know how to fix this. If the window is as big as the screen, the window title doesn’t show ( using the fn GetAvailableWindowPositioningBounds( fn GetMainDevice(), @r ) call ). I’ll play some more with it. Brian S.