Anybody know why? SetRect( r ,136,117,228,137) appearance button _ScaleOnePopBtnID ,,, -12345, -1,"", @r, _kControlPopUpButtonProc +_kControlPopupFixedWidthVariant ....makes for a popup menu that does not show up? if I remove _kControlPopupFixedWidthVariant , then the menu shows up. This is not how it used to be, though I'm glad to know how to 'fix' it, I just remove the constant. ? rc