Steve asked: >Currently I store a number which is the font family number. >FMFontFamily = fn FMGetFontFamilyFromName("Arial") > >How can I use that or convert FMFontFamily to the CTFontRef used below. ? Steve, Feed "Arial" as a CFStringRef to CTFontCreateCopyWithFamily and it will generate the CTFontRef without need for the FMFontFamily API. Ken