I am asking pretty much the same question, from a similar viewpoint. There is a language called "Objective-Basic" (http://www.objective-basic.com/ ) which I know almost nothing about but it might fit the bill. The present version requires 10.7 but there is a 10.6 version which can be provided upon request. Since I have 10.5.8 I am not presently able to check it out. Has anyone tried it? The manual is in slightly broken English (developer is German) and not very extensive. There may be limitations – the manual states that "There are no class variables or class functions yet, all variables and functions are useable together with objects only". As this still is "mumbo-jumbo" (to quote your excellent phrase) to me, I don't kow how serious a limitation this is. Obj-Basic claims to be free for non-commercial use. If anyone who knows more than I about OO programming has tried it, I would be interested in what they think. I have no other pressing reasons to upgrade to 10.6 presently, so it would be good to know if this IDE would make it worthwhile. Or if anyone know of other alternatives. Regards, Dan On 20 Apr 2012, at 23:48, PZ wrote: > >> (3) Is there any alternative procedural language with the >> simplicity of Basic? > > I would like to ask a modified version of Doug's question 3 - > incorporating > Peter's "Basic was a language which any dummy could learn just by > reading > the instructions for each of the "Verbs"." > > Are there any simplified languages the wrap the ObjC mumbo-jumbo > into nice > neat command like BASIC? My current intention is to rewrite my apps in > RealBasic (or RealWhtever it is now). Are there other alternatives > for those > of us who are not full-time programmers? I realize there is likely no > getting around using an object-oriented language. > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: futurebasic-unsubscribe@... > To access the list archives, go to: http://freegroups.net/groups/futurebasic/ >