open source is a fascinating concept. i intend to explore its use in the future by migrating my commercial futurebasic source code gradually in that direction. (once i develop an approach...) this will be after i've generated enough revenue from the code to feel i've covered my back-costs. like many perhaps, i often write an app because i need it. if someone will take my efforts as a starting point, and improve on those efforts to create an even better app, and then someone improves that, i see it as win-win-win. *** essentially, my earlier barn-raising suggestion was an invitation to the list to create some open source. i still think it's a good idea, and am still willing to coordinate the effort. but it won't happen unless y'all make it happen. i'm not here pitching it to you -- you've got to decide to do it on your own. -bowerbird