>Incompatibility with OS 8.5 I'm quickly coming to suspect a problem not with 8.5 per se, but with QT3... I've had compile problems starting under 8.1, about the time I "upgraded" to QT3 Pro. And run-time problems since getting QT3 at all. I think. Naturally, I didn't note the dates of either the installation of QT, or when my FB problems started. <sigh> The problems are similar to what you describe, a hard crash at seemingly random times; most frequently when responding to a null event! Still, I've had "better" luck with FB compiles by restarting with extensions off. I haven't yet tried eliminating one extension at a time as the test cycle would be prohibitively lengthy, but that (or some creative MacsBug use...) seems indicated. Not sure what to do about the problem on the runtime, though, as it's not reasonable to say "not compatible with xxx" especially if "xxx" is QT3. Bill