>Since both IM and FB manuals say you can't put an ARC shape in a >region, does anyone know (Mars perhaps?) any way of getting around >that or any clever (fast) way of detecting a click on an ARC segment? >(preferably just the space between the Arc perimeter and its chord). Wasn't there a discussion recently about building a region from a pixmap - i believe that this was on a thread that mel instigated concerning getting the size of a letter. If such a routine exists then andy would only need to draw his arc in an offscreen world, convert to a region, do an offset for the place in the window where the arc originally exists, and voilĂ , test the click with ptinrgn to see if the arc was clicked. Sounds like a mouth full, but should be quite quick... if he can find the adequate routine. jonathan