Dean,
I think the tape was sent out to all sbc pastors by the NAMB. I know I
received one here in SC.
I would want to ask the elders why only a small percentage of Mormons are
":temple worthy."
Also, I would like to question them about the "magic underwear" they wear to
protect them from non-Mormons. I have read that there are Masonic symbols
on the underwear that the temple Mormons wear.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean West" <ldw45@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] The gods at your house
> Steve,
> A couple years ago I received a video tape titled "The Secret World of
> Mormonism". I almost pitched it but on second thought viewed the tape.
It
> was quiet revealing in content. I believe the tape had been sent to most
> Southern Baptist pastors in Illinois, at least those I talk with have
> received it. Just wondering if you might have received this video.
> Address on the case was W.M. Gurley, 7125 River Bend Road, Memphis, Tn.
> 38125-4442
>
> A couple of very interesting topics discussed on the tape, one of which
was
> the doctrine of individual blood atonement. Although it is very
> controversial and denied by the Mormons, there is enough credible material
> to verify its having been taught. (This site is one among many discussing
it
> http://www.irr.org/mit/WDIST/wdist-blood-atonement.html ) Another topic
> discussed was regulation temple garments, Garment of the Holy
Priesthood,
> which is said to be "a shield and a protection" to the wearer throughout
> life. Mormons sometimes claim escape from bodily harm on account of
wearing
> this Garment.
>
> Just some interesting information that might add to your discussion with
> these fellows.
> Dean
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...>
> To: <pastorsforum@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] The gods at your house
>
>
> Thanks for the inquiry Jeff,
> It was an interesting visit and they will be back next week - perhaps
> I was too nice to them. They gave me a brief overview of who they are
> (i.e. Mormons) and how they got started. I didn't realize that after
> the Apostles died there was chaos and the church went under until 1830.
> All of this of course contrary to Matthew 16. We talked about
> prophets and whether there are continuing extra-biblical revelations
> today. Using Hebrews 1:1,2 and some other passages I noted that there
> was no need for further revelation after the Bible as Christ was the
> fullest of God's revelation and all that we need is in the Bible. A
> little later we talked about the current prophet (Hinkley) who as it
> turns out is sort of like the Pope and makes proclamations and
> declarations for the church. I asked if it was possible if he could be
> wrong. They had no answer for that. Then I asked the "if you died
> today" question and they said that they would go to be with God because
> they did the best they could. I asked, 'how would you know if you have
> done enough'? No answer. I asked what the Gospel was and it was that
> Jesus suffered and came to life - I thought it was interesting that His
> crucifixion and death were not mentioned and then the other guy said oh
> yeah it includes the atonement. I showed them what the Gospel is from 1
> Cor. 15:1-4 and showed passages on faith and grace (Rom. 1:16 and Eph.
> 2:8,9). I had them read Eph. 2:1,2 and asked if a dead man can do
> anything thing and they were puzzled about whether I meant the spirit or
> body. When I mentioned that it sounds a lot like works and started
> talking about Grace they backpedaled a bit and mentioned Grace. Then we
> discussed how they know the Book of Mormon is true? Can we trust the
> inklings of our hearts or a 'leading of the Spirit' - how can we verify
> those. I mentioned some of the so called 'revivals' and how really
> anybody can say that they have had a revelation from God but how do they
> test it. I upheld Scripture as the only standard. There was kind of a
> funny moment when after they had talked about Joseph Smith not sure
> about which church to join because there was so many - I showed them the
> copy of the book of Mormon that I have - which is an old copy I got from
> someone who was getting rid of a bunch of books (printed in 1917). The
> one guy was somewhat impressed at how old the book was until he saw that
> it was printed by the Reorganized group and not theirs. So after I said
> something about everybody having splits I asked so which one is the
> right one as they are both claiming to be the same. Of course their new
> shiny updated one was the one.
> Anyway sorry to drag this out. They wanted me to read a few passages
> and they are going to come back. I have some more questions for them and
> I will ask them if they want to study the Bible together. I did ask
> them if anyone ever asked them if they knew the Osmonds. I sort of said
> it as a joke to lighten them up and the one guy said he had actually met
> them.
>
>
>
> Peace,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> Jeff Hallmark wrote:
> > Hey, Brother Steve tell us how it went. When the gods (mormons) came to
> > your house.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff
> >
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