Dale,
I still have some of that kind!!!!
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "prosperityfbc" <prosperityfbc@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] The gods at your house
> Never heard of "magic underwear" but have heard of "holy underwear".
> Seems like I had some of those as a kid. They were most comfortable but
mom wouldn't let me keep them. Hmmmm, wife is the same way. Wonder why?
>
> DG
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Dean West" <ldw45@...>
> Reply-To: pastorsforum@...
> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:48:34 -0600
>
> >Jerry,
> >I have never heard the Masonic symbol / "magic underwear" connection.
> >Just wondering where you read it?
> >
> >Dean
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jerry" <jelewis@...>
> >To: <pastorsforum@...>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:21 PM
> >Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] The gods at your house
> >
> >
> >Dean,
> >
> >I think the tape was sent out to all sbc pastors by the NAMB. I know I
> >received one here in SC.
> >
> >I would want to ask the elders why only a small percentage of Mormons are
> >":temple worthy."
> >
> >Also, I would like to question them about the "magic underwear" they wear
to
> >protect them from non-Mormons. I have read that there are Masonic
symbols
> >on the underwear that the temple Mormons wear.
> >
> >Jerry
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dean West" <ldw45@...>
> >To: <pastorsforum@...>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:09 AM
> >Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] The gods at your house
> >
> >
> >> Steve,
> >> A couple years ago I received a video tape titled "The Secret World of
> >> Mormonism". I almost pitched it but on second thought viewed the
tape.
> >It
> >> was quiet revealing in content. I believe the tape had been sent to
most
> >> Southern Baptist pastors in Illinois, at least those I talk with have
> >> received it. Just wondering if you might have received this video.
> >> Address on the case was W.M. Gurley, 7125 River Bend Road, Memphis,
Tn.
> >> 38125-4442
> >>
> >> A couple of very interesting topics discussed on the tape, one of which
> >was
> >> the doctrine of individual blood atonement. Although it is very
> >> controversial and denied by the Mormons, there is enough credible
material
> >> to verify its having been taught. (This site is one among many
discussing
> >it
> >> http://www.irr.org/mit/WDIST/wdist-blood-atonement.html ) Another
topic
> >> discussed was regulation temple garments, Garment of the Holy
> >Priesthood,
> >> which is said to be "a shield and a protection" to the wearer
throughout
> >> life. Mormons sometimes claim escape from bodily harm on account of
> >wearing
> >> this Garment.
> >>
> >> Just some interesting information that might add to your discussion
with
> >> these fellows.
> >> Dean
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...>
> >> To: <pastorsforum@...>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:11 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] The gods at your house
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for the inquiry Jeff,
> >> It was an interesting visit and they will be back next week -
perhaps
> >> I was too nice to them. They gave me a brief overview of who they are
> >> (i.e. Mormons) and how they got started. I didn't realize that after
> >> the Apostles died there was chaos and the church went under until 1830.
> >> All of this of course contrary to Matthew 16. We talked about
> >> prophets and whether there are continuing extra-biblical revelations
> >> today. Using Hebrews 1:1,2 and some other passages I noted that there
> >> was no need for further revelation after the Bible as Christ was the
> >> fullest of God's revelation and all that we need is in the Bible. A
> >> little later we talked about the current prophet (Hinkley) who as it
> >> turns out is sort of like the Pope and makes proclamations and
> >> declarations for the church. I asked if it was possible if he could be
> >> wrong. They had no answer for that. Then I asked the "if you died
> >> today" question and they said that they would go to be with God because
> >> they did the best they could. I asked, 'how would you know if you have
> >> done enough'? No answer. I asked what the Gospel was and it was that
> >> Jesus suffered and came to life - I thought it was interesting that His
> >> crucifixion and death were not mentioned and then the other guy said oh
> >> yeah it includes the atonement. I showed them what the Gospel is from
1
> >> Cor. 15:1-4 and showed passages on faith and grace (Rom. 1:16 and Eph.
> >> 2:8,9). I had them read Eph. 2:1,2 and asked if a dead man can do
> >> anything thing and they were puzzled about whether I meant the spirit
or
> >> body. When I mentioned that it sounds a lot like works and started
> >> talking about Grace they backpedaled a bit and mentioned Grace. Then
we
> >> discussed how they know the Book of Mormon is true? Can we trust the
> >> inklings of our hearts or a 'leading of the Spirit' - how can we verify
> >> those. I mentioned some of the so called 'revivals' and how really
> >> anybody can say that they have had a revelation from God but how do
they
> >> test it. I upheld Scripture as the only standard. There was kind of a
> >> funny moment when after they had talked about Joseph Smith not sure
> >> about which church to join because there was so many - I showed them
the
> >> copy of the book of Mormon that I have - which is an old copy I got
from
> >> someone who was getting rid of a bunch of books (printed in 1917). The
> >> one guy was somewhat impressed at how old the book was until he saw
that
> >> it was printed by the Reorganized group and not theirs. So after I said
> >> something about everybody having splits I asked so which one is the
> >> right one as they are both claiming to be the same. Of course their
new
> >> shiny updated one was the one.
> >> Anyway sorry to drag this out. They wanted me to read a few
passages
> >> and they are going to come back. I have some more questions for them
and
> >> I will ask them if they want to study the Bible together. I did ask
> >> them if anyone ever asked them if they knew the Osmonds. I sort of
said
> >> it as a joke to lighten them up and the one guy said he had actually
met
> >> them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Peace,
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jeff Hallmark wrote:
> >> > Hey, Brother Steve tell us how it went. When the gods (mormons) came
to
> >> > your house.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Jeff
> >> >
> >> >
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